Hi @Zhunda just read through your proposal and would agree with the comments by @Dacha and @so608
IMO it is important to provide easy to access analysis and metrics from your guilds work.
I appreciate that you have always posted a monthly Report, but moving forward we need to find ways to make that data more accessible.
Update : Today, I spent 15 minutes of my time for negotiations with Crypto Chris. He is willing to create content for $800.
@Dacha @so608
We could give a large list of youtubers for Marketing DAO council to choose from.
In this cirlce we chosen best ones in term of how content is shown and price to view ratio.
Rest of youtubers are alos cool but the budget they asked… Not the thing to put into 10k budgeting so not much to discuss which ones to choose with Marketing Council or NEAR community. 
Dacha made his point if Head Capital doesn’t suit than were cool with that, same comments are welcomed from anyone before submitting proposal. Hope that made clear with that.
That’s maybe for report after videos are posted, we try to gather max info and give it to community.
I got your idea about gathering growth by “how many followers to NEAR specific telegram group did youtuber bring”. This week had a plan to catch all national language guilds that youtubers will promote, yeah, continuing your thought it would be much better not to add only group sample links (as we pland this cycle) to channels but ask from them invite links (think discord has that kind of option, for telegram invite links can be shared in Youtubers description by bit.ly to atleast messure clicks.
From our past works we see that maybe 5% of viewers take look into video description or comments. Can do a lot of things for those 5% to messure CTR, growth of subscribers etc. but it wont give a full view on what viewer decided after watching the video. Imagine video having 10k views and 10 clicks on Telegram link. Does it mean that for xxx$ video got only 10 clicks, technichally YES, and it should mean that costs per one recieved follower are 50 USD - YES, can total PR effort for 10k viewers that wathced video (some may be into NEAR, some first time hearing it) be messured? NO, it can’t.
so608 think in each previous porposal this was discussed. A short general overview.
Im a marketing geek, everything should be mesured to see the outcomes.
Pareto 80/20 should be used everywhere.
And it makes me also sad that i cant see those 20% that give 80% of result.
This is a problem, im opened to hear out certain things that can be done to solve it.
With Sandbox team we had a plan to give 10 USD in NEAR for each new onboarded activist using keyword or something like that. Cool bite to motivate person and for OWS a transperant messurement to see how effective was campaign. Still now on OWS rolling opportunities are closed and they won’t be advertised.
Hope you understood my pain.
@Hsmoney homework understood? 
Stephen want’s to organize bi-weekly group calls with discussions. Maybe this will give a better feedback.
For now it looks like everyone approves every activity or choise of youtubers.
Dacha and being a council member doesn’t forbid you to join our guild as “agent” or other guilds and help them out.
Ouu yeah, in proposals you just see tip of iceberg.
If i would start to share screens with youtuber mails, TG chats with agents or all work processes, then those 30-40 hours per week would add extra 15-20 hours, and i don’t want to do that.
Newbies do come and write PMs, thanks for your work. I just don’t make it public.
Once again, besides Twitter Yana helps with administration, design, news gathering and espionage.
Dacha, i understand you might have some personal issues with her. You don’t have to put it in public each time.
Please, can we close this topic?
Mentioned this in so608 comment.
Thank you. @Hsmoney a cool tool to use. In right upper corner language can be changed.
Hey @cryptocredit we do post metrics after each work cycle.
Heres a sample, if you see that any additional specific info should be given, please mention what we can share.
For December and January nothing much was done or any funding was asked. My karma is clean no to give any stats on work for these months. 
Nothing personal. Only facts. She got $1000 from Marketing DAO and didn’t do her job. 2 own posts on tg and 2 on Twitter.
I can prepare full statistics if you disagree with me. Mostly shilling Flying Rhino LLC clients on Twitter. NF paid 1500 N for this work + extra $1000 from Marketing DAO .
I will definitely vote no for this point.
Sweet! Thanks for kicking out extra discount.
@Dacha no jokes, i see that your good in negotiations with them!
Past week i got reply from NEAR Guild Grant, some small things should have more description, and by past week had additonal plans how future of guild might look. Ill discuss it with Grace to form whole picture, after think to share it on forum.
As a small peek in plans, we want to recruit a develper to help run guilds first project, if it goes well then to onboard other project authors or teams to give them sort of a “start up” help.
Now we can give some PR intro, marketing advices, business concepts and drive to other guilds who can give a work support.
Anyhow, have a serious thought which youtubers you can/want to bring we can put you atleast as agent.
If for now you see certain thing that you would like to do in Stars Guild. If your keen on report creation or see any other acrivity that you want to cover, let me know in PM, a fair bounty in exchange that you want ill fight for when makiing a 3 month budgeting plan in Guild Grant proposal. 
About which time period you mention?
Im cool without stats it trust.
She does it for Frying? Flying Rhino… ))
Dacha, in our communication i don’t ask her what she does in Rhyno or Wizards guild, how much she gets or doesn’t get paid.
That’s an old one.
Aldo, would like to say that $200 is too much for agents, ~ 15-30 minutes of work per blogger.
It the reason why I put your attention on her work. Instead of fairly take a look of her work for Stars Guild you’re continue arguing with me.
I definitely disagree to pay any rewards from Marketing DAO (community treasury) to private company members who using your guild for shilling their clients.
I believe you need to take a time , update some procedures in your Guild , review team members work and come back with new proposal in February.
May be your agent @JThompson123 from Wizard guild can help you.
Have a great day.
Dacha, this is not 30 min work. Maybe from side it looks plain and simple tho process looks like this.
Agent goes trough youtube or uses his personal contacts (its already really valuable) to get conversation warmed up and price qoutes, before scanning if youtuber is cheating anywhere.
For me to create this list of 150 youtubers to start conversation took two months. Youtube limits contact gathering option for 10 youtubers per day and to do it quiltive it took me 4-5 hours per day.
Second step. Contact them, see what they got and can offer. In table you see that 10% of youtubers have price qoutes, for rest it’s unsucessful communication (offer too pricy, coudnt find common path or just simply no reply).
I (as guild leader) with Yana do gather all info to promote to give ir well prepaired to Agents. This is my part of work.
Third step, agents recontact youtuber and give them topics to chose from, help gather info about certain NEAR project details and hold to our guild requierments for them and keep youtubers warm.
Fourth step is to supervise their work. After individual DAO request aproval funds to YT are sent (5 min work, not hard one) If all the links and description are put correctly, same promises with influencers SMM that agents agree on. Go trough the scripts, some youtubers send the written one (enjoy working with Hot Crypto News). Then YT send link of prepared work, we rewatch it, see if texts and links are correct and put comments if something needs to be changed or redone (worst scenario for YT, cuz then redoing parts and montage takes effort). If all good than video is launched, after it Agent stays tuned, wathces for suspicious view growth and comments, in two weeks after asks for stats screens for report.
And yeah, think that’s all about the processing schedule. And yes, agent takes it’s own risks so that youtuber won’t run away with given funds.
30 minute work? Naah, looks a bit harder then expected.
Dacha, it looks like from 9650 till 10k USD we got 350 USD to squeeze in.
If you got a youtuber that can do some magic with this sum. 200 USD from my side to you for a closed work with influencer.
yeah, somehow we dont understand each other Dacha.
Once again, she got 1000 USD in December for her past work in October and November. For December and January none of funding was asked.
I don’t remember in which guild she works as volunteer
Current funds are asked for work in February.
Yana will remain as part of NEAR Stars Guild.
From your side for 3 month i see you trying to influence me at all costs to remove her from our team. Why are you doing this, what’s your motivation?
To be honest for me the only reason are simply relations between you and her.
Ill stay with the same one proposal.
@JThompson123 how you and Wizard guild can help solve conflict between Dacha and Yana?
Guilds are trying to hire Yana because she is highly skilled and knowledgeable about the NEAR ecosystem. I think that NEAR DAOs should do more to support guilds and community members contributing to the ecosystem and they shouldn’t allow gangstalking or abuse.
I don’t know what you are referring to as “agent”. The one time the Wizards’ Guild received payment was for LiteLiger to produce a NEAR DeFi ecosystem review video and all funds were transferred directly to him.
I and the Wizards’ Guild team do not want to be involved in personal disputes here so please do not involve us.
Thank you
Hey guys,
Let’s keep this discussion on-topic and focused on the proposal from NEAR Stars Guild only.
Happy to discuss this more on a separate thread or in DM, would be interested to know. We wouldn’t tolerate a drop of gangstalking, nor abuse.
Hello @Dacha I really much appreciate your work in The NF
I’m just here to point somethings out
First the inactivity of The Guild Telegram Group
And Secondly the Fair Bounty
Let’s go straight to the inactivity of the guild ;
Perhaps last month Near Stars Guild did Nothing ,
Go through December you will find out
Am always coming in somehow to drop some msges but no reply from community members
This can be perhaps results to one thing
(I) the inability of the guild to support more members due to fact we always try to squeeze ourselves to fit the budget.
Last month @Zhunda brought the Ambassador Program Which was going to be beneficial to everyone both in the guild and outside the guild … By giving 70% a chance to participate in the guild activities ,
It’s still pending approval ,
I discussed with @Zhunda
About hosting ama’s in the guild bi weekly next month
To discuss guild plans
Our difficulties
Etc
You think the bounty is not fair
Have you scout a YouTuber before for a month plus
Then you will probably know it’s fair
Here is it I will give you only two names
Make a deal with them
Let’s see how much the will ask
Make a deal with Satosh
Here is his deck
https://eu.docworkspace.com/d/sIB7qqsWYAfyN4I8G
Try and make a deal
Secondly crypto Hustle
https://eu.docworkspace.com/d/sIPHqqsWYAeaP4I8G
His deck 
Perhaps you won’t know how stressful it is to scout a YouTuber for months then you can’t make a deal
You turn to another until you see a YouTuber
You see how tough it might get ?
Concerning you @Dacha and @Yana
I think something is personal
Anywhere her name is mentioned in the NF you are always available to criticize
She is doing alot and she is highly skill
I personally have alot of things to learn from her ,the energy she put in
And the Time she spent is inevitable
So @Dacha reconsider this
We need more people like @Yana in the forum
I don’t have much to say 
Yeah, starts to get like off topic discussion. 
For sure. Appreciate your responsiveness, @Zhunda
Stars Guild has a track record of delivering, so I, personally, don’t see any reason this cannot be funded.
@marketingdao-council - for review
Agent - the one who brings youtuber in and works with him to create a video.
Idk, if got some ideas how to name them inside context, opened for new naming.
From whom you get the list of topics for promotion?
Stephen, before wanted to tell a story how your workflow went but chosen to give my own sample.
Thanks for sharing your story! 
