[Closed] March 2022 Content & Infographic Production - Near Insider Guild

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Council members from @marketingdao-council

I am here to let you all know that from the Near Concierge Team and Open Web Sandbox (As NearInsider is consider Tier1 for us on OWS), we @HaiVu @jiten123321 @Jloc @Monish016 invest good time to help this proposal to be shaped better by @near.insider with better explanation and breakdown.

Please take again into consideration and review, as Near Insider is a truly member of the community and the proposal creates value for the Near Ecosystem.

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Good morning. Important questions from me:

  • introduce Near Insider team
  • translations on non-English languages, because we strive Diversity (we already have degens team for promotion in English),
  • explain expenses (why OWS pays $200 for one person vs requested $1000 from Marketing DAO - we cannot discriminate community members and pay significantly different rewards for exactly same work).

I proposed reduce budget to $1600 a month.

Thanks

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Thank you @Dacha for being always active :1st_place_medal:

Agree :white_check_mark: Introduction is a good oportunity to show your self,
but the work was already shown as you can see the twitter account. It is a quality work with good interactions that could still be useful if we can support it.

:white_check_mark: Agree too, there could be cross collaborations with other guilds, I can help on this to happen, so we can help other Guilds to show this content on other Languages, if @near.insider likes the idea we can work together on that one.

:vulcan_salute: Explanation: You can not compare others work like that, dont know who is OWS paying that right now for all the contribution NearInsider is offering, but I can tell that the value created by Near Insider is top quality and that is not that easy to find. The budget shows a clear breakdown, $200 could be for a newly created account but not for a big community with awesome works and long reach with also a big scope.

Well that’s it, cheers :beers:

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Thanks for your proposal!

After reading all the messages in the thread, including from fellow Council members, I’d like to lay out some views:

  • Proposals should be based on the value they create for the ecosystem, not necessarily on the absolute cost of delivery. This goes both ways - if you create little value but have expenses worth X, we should not have to cover those expenses. Conversely, If you are generating many multiples worth of value v expenses, then I don’t personally care how you and your team split expenses.
  • OWS pay rates are set by the OWS team, and in my personal opinion inadequate for a vast majority of people living in countries with higher living expenses. Marketing DAO is not bound by decisions made by OWS team.
  • Adding on the point above, OWS as far as I understand it, is for casual contributors. It is natural to assume that dedicated teams would have very different compensation expectations. How much of that is covered by the Marketing DAO is negotiable.
  • While we strive for diversity, it seems obvious to me that people can only be expected to create content in the languages they are proficient in. Remain open to collaboration with other communities, but I do not believe funding should be conditional to or limited by the number of people already creating content in that language or by the lack of other languages by the same person.

Having established the above, I have some comments and questions about this proposal specifically:

  • Content pipeline? Would be great to have a better understanding on how the projects are chosen: how much do you collaborate with these projects directly? I know that these projects have budgets for marketing, and they can also give you much higher quality info they want to promote (feature release, alpha, etc.), and even review content before it gets published to ensure accuracy and maximum distribution.
  • Content feedback. I like that you’ve shared some metrics from existing reach, etc. It would also be beneficial in assessing this proposal to have a feedback form given to the projects you are creating content for so they can rate the quality of the service, help us determine on-going or correct rate of funding.

I personally support this proposal. It is clear from the work from the last three months that the team is committed to the NEAR ecosystem and should be able to grow and improve in any areas other Council members may be concerned about.
Happy to jump on a call to tease out outstanding details and perhaps negotiate a final rate @marketingdao-council

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Yes, but how can we approve 8k for anonymous team and councils who created their accounts a month ago?

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Great point, guys as OWS mods team members can you do something to increase rewards for contributors? @Monish016 @FritzWorm

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One of the goals of OWS is to receive NEARcomers and make them grow, professionally.

So, they come, they start collaborating and get some little rewards from us. When they grow they can get paid more because we connect them to projects, and later if they grow even more they can build their Guild. This is also my own experience as a Sandboxer.

With that being said, we from OWS believe that Near Insider is a successful sandboxer whit proven contributions and we support this proposal.

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Hey, @Dacha Thank you for Bringing this up,

First of All, in Project Perspective
OWS to be Seen as a Gateway to NearCommunity. If a Project struggles to Understand the NEAR and Its Ecosystem, OWS Provides Contributor to Understand the Gap and Fill it, OWS Acts as an outsourcing Medium.

OWS Contributors are paid in like Probation Period for Min 3 Months from OWS to Fulfill the Required gap of the Project in NEAR Community. Once contributors do an Extraordinary Job they get hired to the Project with Salary Terms of the Project.

Also, OWS Has a Budget to Fulfill other Projects, Hence we Cannot Make this Request of Increase in the Budget to match the Requested Ammount of NEAR Insider Team

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Thanks for the reminder on how OWS works @FritzWorm @Monish016. It seems like you may be missing the point I made initially and that Dacha is drawing your attention to now: the current reward rates for OWS are (very) low for a large segment of the community in the developed world. This means that even if the OWS services and processes would be beneficial for them, they are automatically excluded as it makes no sense to pursue. Most people would either bypass OWS and work with projects directly or fall off the radar. I am aware that remuneration conversations are not easy, as we are constantly dealing with these issues ourselves. Just something for you guys to be aware and revise as needed. Do you currently have any demographics data on OWS participants? Do you currently have any diversity quotas to grow community participation by regions? Thanks

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Thanks, @satojandro for sharing your concerns. Maybe we can discuss this on another different thread or another communication channel. From me: Remuneration should not take the country of origin into account, but value generated only. And OWS is more like a school, people come in to learn and grow as professionals. I believe you were also a Sandboxer.

This will be a nice topic to discuss with @Sofia_Alum @AnaNastya @vrdoingthings

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I think the proposal mentioned by @dacha is very good, if there isn’t research in Spanish, I am available.

I am always browsing the NEAR ecosystem
Near Insider ES, could be a sub-group that could be created in the future, as appropriate.

Cheers/Saludos!

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Hi Satojandro, thanks for understanding for our work. You also understand that we are not an image designer. We bring many new people to Near. Help them understand the Near ecosystem in the clearest way. And finally, it helps the projects in the ecosystem to reach more users. Pls check my answer to the questions you posed above. Thanks for take time

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First of all, I understand you because you just want to bring fairness to everyone. But hope you understand the value that Near Insider brings, through the 2 answers above. We don’t simply design pictures. It’s the impact on the Near ecosystem, you can totally see how our business works
Finally about the anonymous team. I created this DAO under the guidance of Ankit, a member of AstroDAO, I don’t understand it very well. We always want to make everything public. You can review our previous proposal.

Thanks!

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Woaw. This is one of the mind blowing proposal I have seen here… This will be huge success, however, I am open to join the creative/ design for the infographic design, to make this a success.

Feel free to request for my past project and let’s get to work.

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Pls let me know if you have any questions @Dacha. I’m working for the March target. Thanks for support

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Good morning. Yes, thanks.

I’m still proposing reduce rewards to $1600 a months.

As you know we have many projects and people who work with Twitter with great results (degens*, nearweek, near daily , etc) . I appreciate your work, but if you wanna get Yes form me, you need 1) to think about language diversity , 2) reduce monthly rewards, and 3) have a public OPEN form where any community member , project , guild can order a post from Near Insider.

Have a great day and thanks for your work.

Here is comparison between Near Insider and Degens team impression on Twitter

  • degens team impressions on Twitter , monthly rewards $2300-$3000 per one person (24/7 non-stop shilling Twitter + Reddit + YouTube + Bitcoin talks + many many other work).

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By the way, you can join in the their team as well -

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Yeah. Thanks for sharing! About impressions, Near Insider achieve 600,000 - 700,000 impressions each month. You can see the picture above.

I agree to reduce the reward to $5000/month for proof of competence, until I can apply in Tier 1 as a guild. And we can open form where any community member , project , guild can order a post from Near Insider. We also shilling Twitter + Telegram + Discord

About me being able to participate in Degens, do you think we are like a media partner or an employee in Degens?

Finally I want you to re-evaluate the work that I am doing to support projects, it helps the projects growth and reach the community faster and easier.

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Not sure about it, but your contribution will be definitely valuable for degen’s team and entire Near community. Cc: @SanketN81 @Lolson_tg

Futuremore , can cover some expenses.

My vision-

~ $3000 from Degen’s army + $1600 from Marketing DAO + $200 for one extra language (I propose Spanish, Russian).

Total is $5000

  • open form for Near Community Members
  • telegram group for guild’s / project’s leadership.

Thanks

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Yeah I understand. But can you rethink the reward $1600/month? It is quite low if we only talk about the salary for personnel, our staff is not a recent graduate. But ignoring the salary factor, I want you to see the value that I create for the ecosystem. Fastest news, in-depth analytical posts, attracting many users to know and understand Near

There are a lot of media channels in the ecosystem, but you see, if you only use 2D graphics created from Powerpoint or Canva and post a few times a week, it is not possible to achieve a high number of followers in 3 months. You can learn other media channels in the ecosystem to compare with us. And they only work with the work of providing information. No in-depth insights or analytics

In the end, I still want a reward of $5000/month with the plans and goals written above. @FritzWorm @Monish016 @HaiVu who have been following us for a long time and understand our work

Thanks Dacha

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Sorry, I slightly don’t understand, here people from your team get $200 for the same work…… and it’s not quite low for them.

What the difference? Same people, same responsibilities, same work, but distinctly different rewards.

Ok, sorry NO for me under current circumstances.

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