[Approved] NearCon Attendance: NearNordic + Marketing DAO Council Member

Happy to approve. Have a great day!

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WOW! Good to see proposal getting approved in around 3hrs where other GUILDS & Community people have to wait for weeks & that too with just one council support…

Transparency?
Decentralized Ecosystem?

Hey Klint , I am not sure if you have any extra power on NEAR Forum. Because I have told from day 1 that regulations and procedure are same here for everyone, no matter who you are.

When the leader themself can’t follow the procedure, what examples are they setting?

I don’t have any personal issue with you sir. You own this forum, you can set any rules or change them. But NEAR is known for its transparency & equality. Community have to wait for days/weeks then why it is so hard for a council to wait…

If I am not wrong, the procedure is:

  1. After posting the proposal there are set of people who discuss and give their opinion.

  2. And if your PROPOSAL GETS 3 YES FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS, then it is marked as APPROVED.

But here,

  1. NO DISCUSSION

  2. MARKED APPROVED WITH ONLY SINGLE YES

Sorry, if you find anything wrong in this. Pardon me, but this was my observation & opinion to it. Also, you have the right to disagree with this. I don’t have any personal grudges with anyone & this Ecosystem have created the best ever teams & GUILDS, everyone is kind here. But these are some things that can take us backward. Because I know, every one will see this and will skip as they do not want to take any risk. But for sure they will mark it as negetive thing in their mind and might not trust this transparency.

Everyone please feel free to share your opinion on this, I might be the only wrong person here.
Thankyou & Sorry at the same time to the whole ecosytem. Hope the whole ecosystem will give fair opinion on this.

@David_NEAR @Dacha

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Good morning, yes we made decision on Marketing DAO weekly call.

Absolutely, feel free to read our last report :

Sorry about it. Do our best (in June, we received 67 proposals, 2,4 a day). We are also aware of delays with payments.

Could you please give me a link on your proposal? Thank You

Have a great day!

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Okay! I agree but I guess they would have waited for few more time, because no one knows about your internal meetings. If you look it by anyone else POV it looks unethical.

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I’m personally trying to review all proposals ASAP, especially event’s proposals…

Like here , here , etc

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Sorry, I guess you got it wrong. I am not doubting any of your work. My simple opinion was the procedure was not followed. Also, I respect all your hard work to raise this whole community All the proposals were reviewed properly here and was on time, especially @dacha you are the one of the most active council or forum member here. No doubt in that.

My concern was for PROCEDURE, don’t you think it will create doubt in others?

Also, the report you sent never mentions that PROPSALS CAN GET APPROVED IN SINGLE YES. If it was discussed in the weekly CALLS, it should not be presented on FORUM,

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I salute you for your work, every FORUM MEMBER is your fan. But you are not understanding the point here.

Have a good day sir

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Thank You :blush:.

Sorry about your experience. We constantly improve our service.

Please, feel free to DM me if you have any issues. I will be happy to help you.

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Hey Mate! I don’t think it will create any tensions as we have one of best community that understands and respect every voice. If you are silent because you are afraid of so called ‘tensions’ then you at a wrong place sir.

Have a good day sir

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Hey guys – I’m on the council, and I will quickly say that I think that you are right to ask for the same procedure to be followed for everyone. In my view, there should have been adequate time for all council to review and post on the forum before moving this to approved.

I do think the outcome of the council decision/vote would have been the same regardless of the timing, but you are right to underscore the need for consistency and fairness. Thanks for posting this!

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Don’t get me wrong, I’m not against your point of view… all I’m saying is a direct word and not to assume anyone opinion. I’m scared of nothing. Seeing the approval, i felt it have being discussed by the council before approval. So every one have a point of view. Afterall you wrote what i quoted and I’m just giving my opinion.

Thank you for your feedback.

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@Klint thank you for your proposal and sharing the report on the launch of NearNordic.

I have no hesitation in supporting funding your attendance at NEARCON as I believe that the depth of experience and insight that you and @so608 bring to both the community and Marketing DAO adds significant value to all projects building on NEAR.

I would also add that the Marketing DAO council members who will be present at NEARCON are looking forward to meeting face to face with the community and we hope that this event will provide an opportunity to build strong relationships for the future.

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Thanks…

Yes! That’s what I meant

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  • I am also agree to this but other @marketingdao-council members are so lazy in work. i seen many reports and proposals but only @Dacha is only council member who ask question and also after giving community replies @Dacha is replying on that.

  • Other Proposals are pending but council member Get Aproved.

  • But other counsils are disapeers for many days after asking question. @David_NEAR You need to check work of marketing counsils as well.

  • In addition to that @Klint Sir having marketing agency but he has only 200 Followers in IG,
    57 Followers and 73 following. How you do your marketing sir?

*If all Community CEO are apply to attend NEARCON can marketing approve all.


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Hi hina, I wanted to comment on this as somebody from the outside of this situation but as a marketing professional with 10 years of experience as a freelancer and in agency settings.

Follows are a vanity stat that that arent always indicative of success and often mask ineffectiveness. Marketing is a spectrum of practices, and metrics are relative. Digital marketing and ads especially, can increase leads and prospects, but dont necessarily translate to social followings, though still translating to conversions and sales, which are the metrics that matter most.

I know many, many marketing agencies that use “growth hacks” and other tricks to pump following counts and other vanity stats while leading to minimal conversion or engagement. Essentially making their following count meaningless, and even counterproductive.

Theres also a bit of understood irony in the marketing field, where we take care of our client’s accounts far more than our own, because its about the results we can deliver for them, and our personal socials dont get the same attention because we are focused on building client strategies.

I like to contextualize professional socials, as living press kits.
The creator and influencer economy is another beast entirely.

Of course having large followings are nice, but they are easy to be misleading.

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Hey @hina we’re always open to criticism and feedback – I don’t think it needs to turn into a personal attack on anyone though. Agree with @rhymetaylor’s thoughts on the vanity metrics :slightly_smiling_face:

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Thank you for this observations miss hina. As im also part of the team NNC projects. Some council been delaying the proposal , we took months been interrogations questioning about the projects statistics etc. Even know the council the answers was already in the proposal . I mean people depend on this projects. Council never experience delayed salary like us more 2 to 3 months we never declaire anything coz until now we wait for marketing council approval. The projects runs 1 year now but they still doubts for every submitted proposal besides this been done many times proposal.

I also dont like to be quiet and say nothing as @thisissowrong mention i have also a voice to speak ,opinion to say what i observes here. Im not againts for their positions and every work. Im also not looking to be famosity or to become popular. I only wants the projects run equally like the rest who is trying to improved their projects as well.

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Welcome @ImJami2017 , also Sorry from council because council was approved their purposal so may be he was busy so not your community some more community proposals are in pending from many months and sometimes they are waiting for many days after giving some counsils replies.

Hope @David_NEAR sir can help you as well as some other purposal.
Sorry @David_NEAR sir i tag you many times

I am seeing purposals and listout proposals which are pending and which are get approved in hours without any questions.

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Looks like there’s been quite a bit of chatter on this particular post.

While I’m glad to see that people are involved with DAO, I think the personal attacks, badgering messages, and disparaging remarks on the forum are not the purpose of the Marketing DAO.

Forgive me for my radio silence but I feel as though most of the information has been addressed.

Fast Approval:
I agree this proposal was approved more quickly than it should have been.

As others have stated, the normal procedure is three council members will give their approval before a proposal is marked as approved. This has been addressed in @Dacha’s comments above.

As stated in the comments above, during our regular weekly call, we clustered all of applications for NearCon. The conversation led us to examine all current proposals that were related to NearCon. This post was among them.

The verbal approval was given during the call. One of the other council members marked this proposal to “approved.”

I don’t believe he marked this post as “approved” in an effort to circumvent a system. I genuinely believe he was doing so in order get more proposals through the process. It was an honest mistake on his part.

Again, as stated in this thread, that shouldn’t be normal procedure. We have addressed this.

Delays in Other Proposals
Some proposals require numerous discussions, research, and independent review in order for them to be approved.

It’s a case-by-case basis for many of these projects. We’re trying to determine the impact and value of projects based on the proposal’s content, previous work, and countless other metrics/considerations.

Delays in Payouts
The council is not responsible for the timing of payouts.

If it were up to me, we would make sure everyone was paid on the same day.

A new streamlined process for requesting funds after approval has been implemented recently. Despite the Near Foundation’s best efforts to make things easier on the community, there are still delays. And those delays are affecting everyone.

That’s all the information I have. We’re just trying to understand the circumstances and support wherever we can.

Personal attacks
Thank you for pointing out that my company’s Instagram follower count is low.

Before you try to build up your presence on any channel, ask:

  • Who is your target customer?
  • What types of media do they consume/
  • Where do they generally go to consume media?

Instagram isn’t the channel we use for lead generation.

My agency is a B2B services provider. We sell marketing services to businesses.

Historically, IG just isn’t a good network for generating new B2B opportunities within companies that generate a minimum of $5M per year.

Messaging me
I genuinely welcome messages and appreciate it when people ask questions.

Especially if people trying to understand more about DAOs, Near, or looking for relevant resources- I’m happy to respond.

Demanding that I respond or badgering me with sentence fragments isn’t how this community works.

Attempts at bullying are against community guidelines. It shouldn’t matter if it’s a council member or anyone else in the community.

I hope this clears the air a bit. Even if I’m addressing pretty much all the same things that have been said above.

Thanks!

Klint

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