# \[ACCEPTED\] Philosophical Thought Experiments Art

**URL:** <https://gov.near.org/t/accepted-philosophical-thought-experiments-art/22561>\
**Category:** Creatives DAO\
**Tags:** incubadorapt-dao, proposals, thephilosophers-dao\
**Created:** [June 6, 2022, 2:49pm UTC](https://gov.near.org/t/accepted-philosophical-thought-experiments-art/22561 "2022-06-06T14:49:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![jsc2022.near](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/gov.near.org/jsc2022.near/32/21323_2.png) [@jsc2022.near](https://gov.near.org/u/jsc2022.near)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 2:49pm UTC](https://gov.near.org/t/accepted-philosophical-thought-experiments-art/22561/1 "2022-06-06T14:49:32Z")

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This project goal is to bring the academy more close to people and we think that art is the way for that. With that in mind, we want to produce a bounty in which the NEAR community can express its creativity by creating art from philosophical thought experiments.

**benefit/justification** : the benefits of the project are: (1) to spread philosophy and its thought experiments through the artistic NEAR community; (2) to create products that could be sold by the DAO and be used to get resources; (3) to integrate The Philosophers DAO more deeply with the community of creative artists on NEAR and to spread The Philosophers DAO’s Community; (4) to produce art NFTs and transactions on the blockchain; (5) to bring university professors to the ecosystem, who could be the next collectors when they understand well how web 3 works…

**the project**

The project is to give an acquisition prize of 100 usd in near or dai for each of the 4 best pieces of art produced by the community in our bounty. The pieces of art must not be minted, because they are going to be minted by us, with the due credits, in our store and with royalties and revenue splitted equally between the artist and The Philosophers DAO; they must come with a cover image (an associated image - if the art is an image, it can be itself) they can be pictures, including memes, videos, poetry, 3d objects, gifs, and should express the following thought experiment:

Thought experiment: **Laplace’s Demon**

The laws of classical mechanics, as written down by people like Newton, Lagrange and others, gives us a framework to calculate the future motion of bodies or particles if we know the current position and speed of the particle. Laplace’s demon (although there isn’t really a demon!) takes this idea and confronts head-on the ideas of determinism and free will. Laplace stated that, if we believe classical mechanics, we can know the past and future positions and speeds of all atoms in the universe provided we know their positions and speeds at some point in time. In essence it means the universe is somehow clockwork and the state of the universe (and hence us) is pre-determined for all time. This is clearly a very profound statement, and one incompatible with quantum mechanics. Where does it leave personal choice?

“We may regard the present state of the universe as the effect of its past and the cause of its future. An intellect which at a certain moment would know all forces that set nature in motion, and all positions of all items of which nature is composed, if this intellect were also vast enough to submit these data to analysis, it would embrace in a single formula the movements of the greatest bodies of the universe and those of the tiniest atom; for such an intellect nothing would be uncertain and the future just like the past would be present before its eyes.”, Pierre Simon Laplace, A Philosophical Essay on Probabilities.

Consultant: Dr ROBERT APPLEBY”

(source: [https://commapress.co.uk/resources/thought-experiments/](https://commapress.co.uk/resources/thought-experiments/))

**timeline**

week 1: to launch the bounty and publicize it.

week 2: to publicize the bounty.

week 3: to choose 4 winners, to mint the NFTs.

week 4: report and accountability.

**budget**

4 winners (best art chosen by council) x 100USD (100 USD in NEAR or DAI, whichever is more convenient for the DAO, and NEAR value will be measured according to the exchange rate used by NEAR to pay the DAO)

**Subtotal:** 400USD

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**Author:** ![thephilosopher](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/gov.near.org/thephilosopher/32/14910_2.png) [@thephilosopher](https://gov.near.org/u/thephilosopher)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 7:40pm UTC](https://gov.near.org/t/accepted-philosophical-thought-experiments-art/22561/2 "2022-07-05T19:40:34Z")

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**Final Report**

**Project status: Completed**

**Project name:**

> [@\[ACCEPTED\] Philosophical Thought Experiments Art](http://gov.near.org/t/accepted-philosophical-thought-experiments-art/22561):
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> This project goal is to bring the academy more close to people and we think that art is the way for that. With that in mind, we want to produce a bounty in which the NEAR community can express its creativity by creating art from philosophical thought experiments. benefit/justification: the benefits of the project are: (1) to spread philosophy and its thought experiments through the artistic NEAR community; (2) to create products that could be sold by the DAO and be used to get resources; (3) to…

**Project Accounting:**

We released a bounty for choosing the pieces of art and then we’ve chosen the arts through telegram and we confirmed it on astro. We also minted 4 NFTs from the chosen art, with royalties and revenues splitted between the artists and the dao. Each artist received 100 usd in near.

> [@\[BOUNTY CLOSED\] Create a piece of art for the Philosophical Thought Experiment 1: Laplace's Demon](http://gov.near.org/t/bounty-closed-create-a-piece-of-art-for-the-philosophical-thought-experiment-1-laplaces-demon/23513/):
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> Dear Community, The Philosophers DAO is very glad of launching this artistic bounty. Philosophy is full of thought experiments, that are deeply important to argue for or against a certain thesis. We want to see NEAR community to express its creativity by creating art from philosophical thought experiments and thus learn a little bit about these experiments. This one tells us about determinism and makes us think about the possibility of freewill. Let the philosophical thought experiment be your …

Payment to the artists:

[https://app.astrodao.com/dao/the-philosophers-dao.sputnik-dao.near/proposals/the-philosophers-dao.sputnik-dao.near-66](https://app.astrodao.com/dao/the-philosophers-dao.sputnik-dao.near/proposals/the-philosophers-dao.sputnik-dao.near-66)

[https://app.astrodao.com/dao/the-philosophers-dao.sputnik-dao.near/proposals/the-philosophers-dao.sputnik-dao.near-55](https://app.astrodao.com/dao/the-philosophers-dao.sputnik-dao.near/proposals/the-philosophers-dao.sputnik-dao.near-55)

[https://app.astrodao.com/dao/the-philosophers-dao.sputnik-dao.near/proposals/the-philosophers-dao.sputnik-dao.near-54](https://app.astrodao.com/dao/the-philosophers-dao.sputnik-dao.near/proposals/the-philosophers-dao.sputnik-dao.near-54)

[https://app.astrodao.com/dao/the-philosophers-dao.sputnik-dao.near/proposals/the-philosophers-dao.sputnik-dao.near-53](https://app.astrodao.com/dao/the-philosophers-dao.sputnik-dao.near/proposals/the-philosophers-dao.sputnik-dao.near-53)

**Updated Project Timeline:**

The project was completed in the appropriate time.

**Highlights and Final Products:**  
We could produce 4 NFTs on Mintbase, which we put for sale for 2 near each, with 50 copies, in order to have products that could gives us back the spent resources.

> **[Winner 1: Thought Experiment 1 - Laplace's Demon: “Blinded Thoughts”, created...](https://www.mintbase.xyz/meta/philosophart.mintbase1.near:b4c2ba81bb0513c21fb62027d74801e1)**
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> Ever since the dawn of civilization, there have always been curious individuals who were eager to investigate the central questions about existence. Their ambition to study various aspects of life to gain a deeper understanding led to the earliest...

> **[Winner 2: Thought Experiment 1: Laplace's Demon - AI Oracle - Singularity,...](https://www.mintbase.xyz/meta/philosophart.mintbase1.near:7d5876145c6817f4c992c234ae96e968)**
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> Description: This is one of a series of experiments made with artifficial intelligence. In this one I used a VQGAN+CLIP guided machine with word prompts. \[Winner of the bounty:...

> **[Winner 3: Thought Experiment 1: Laplace's Demon - Loop, by BoldestArt by...](https://www.mintbase.xyz/meta/philosophart.mintbase1.near:17711e093406ec2987f3b67e91b2f23d)**
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> If a dice is tossed and 1 is to be brought, this is already a known future and 1 can be brought anyway. If the aim is to reach an unknown future with a known past, this is also a known future. The unknown return of the future should not be a surprise...

> **[Winner 4: Thought Experiment 1: Laplace's Demon - Laplace’s Waltz, by Igor...](https://www.mintbase.xyz/meta/philosophart.mintbase1.near:c11c3e8798b1247e285a28dcc65d51f0)**
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> The idea of time has always been one that humanity wanted to gain more knowledge and control over. Laplace’s Demon suggests we could achieve it, however, by gaining complete information about all things past and present for the future to be made...

**Learnings:**

The experiment was a success and many people came to our telegram community (we have now around 90 people), but we could see that maybe we could ask for people to write about the piece too, in order for them to think more about philosophy.
